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Documenting as david said a lot of things we know. from david's point of view. to what was the right place to get to. not the 25th amendment but the mueller investigation which took it out of the hand of the fbi. it was the right thing to get it to mueller. in that sense, mccabe did the right thing. >> but you're going so far as to saying mccabe is just lying and making this up, that the conversation never happenede eh. this seems crazy that somebody b would just make it up when "the new york times" would have had to have more than one source. say mccabe is one. there's at least one more. >> w...

Rid of the president. mccabe has a checkered history. >> but you think it's possible, i don't know him, but you're saying he could have made it up? he's pretty specific. the guy offered to wear a wire. >> i think i've been pretty clear. look, this is a guy who was found to have lied multiple times to the inspector general. he has an incentive, whether it's avoiding a criminal prosecution that's pending or sell iing a book, to start deflecting and throwing things off on other people. friendly interviews don't make it true. >> go ahead, david. >> could i, i just want to make a point. it's my und...

Mccabe says you know this happened. right? he had written a memo, said rod e rosenstein was part of the conversation and said that rod rosenstein suggested wearing a wire to record the president. rosenstein has disputed it and the justice department said he was just being sarcastic if it happened. mccabe according to pely said it was not sarcastic, it was reality. is it possible both things could be true? >> i don't think so with mccabe's track record. david touched on it. this is a guy who has been fired with the disgraceful situation of leaking and lying about it. he even lied to the ig abou...

Closed or vanish in the night without a trace. >> that case became the mueller investigation. president trump firing back today, quote, disgraced mccabe pretends to be a poor little angel when in fact he was a big part of the crooked hillary scandal and the russia hoax, for lea drd kin james comey. emphasis is mine. he went "outfront" tonight. joe walsh, and james trusty, former chief of the organized crime section and long time friend of rod rosenstein who i want to make sure if anyone is going wait, his version, yes, he fakctors prominently into this and we'll get to it in a moment. david, s...

Tonight 2020 democratic candidate kamala harris scoring her biggest endorsement from barbara lee. this is as harris is headed to south carolina to court black voters. early primary state. >> so south carolina's home. >> columbia, south carolina is home. >> david boumen spends hours liening to news radio and this week, this army veteran is hearing kamala harris talk b about a critical issue for him. race. how are you feeling about kamala harris? >> i think eight years of obama should show us should prove to us that just because a person looks like you don't mean