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In any of these fights that we're talking about. even in the case of afghanistan and in afghanistan, it's not even the united states leading the fight in taking the brunt of the casualties at this point. the president doesn't note that. >> right, and that's very disappointing. and as david correctly pointed out, these allies are really taking the lion's share of the burden here. and you know, to expect a country like afghanistan or some of the forces in syria to, quote, pay for, unquote, these operations, u.s. military operations, is just impossible. it doesn't work that way. they're doing us ...

It's almost tragic. he asked the fair question. the point is he is sort of disparagic the generals with that comment. we're not suckers. over 1,000 kurds died in 2017 fighting the islamic state. last year, one american died. 1,000 to 1. four americans have died since u.s. troops went there four years ago. the overwhelming number of people who are dying are local fighters. in afghanistan, it's worst. afghans took over security four years ago, 28,000 people have died, in the same period, about 60 americans have died. that's nearly 500 afghans for every american. so this is not how you keep allie...

Then they said can we have one more like period of six months? i said nope. nope. i said i gave you a lot of six months. and now we're doing it a different way. >> that sort of shed some light on where we are now. it is possible that those types of conversations are what led to the departure of the defense secretary, james mattis. the president was asked about a replacement yesterday. he effectively said there's a long list of candidates that everybody wants that job. more broadly speaking, the president also talked about the government shutdown, repeating that refrain we have heard from him b...

So, we either have to revisit what the president did or we have to acknowledge the fact that we're not going to be in syria in any meaningful way. >> yeah. sphere of influence, i don't know if the president gets that. it doesn't seem that he cares. i was struck, david, when the president said, and we played it, we're no longer the suckers of the world. he was talking about syria when he said that. so of course, i mean, logic leads you to wonder, does he think that the u.s. military, the united states and the u.s. military were suckers for going into syria to fight isis? does that mean that he ...