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With compromises which often means cutting it down the middle more or less, whether you agree. that is obama's perspective. a lot of people on the left think he should be fighting more, given too much but that doesn't seem to be boehner's perspective now when he had a good deal. >> john, same question why does the democratic party want to deal and compromise and the republican party doesn't? in fact, we check it had out, the tea party people that don't want to comp prom my the regular republicans want to compromise. your thoughts? >> i think in the senate thaevg lot -- 23 democratic senators u...

case that the democrats, you know, the party of big government, wants to shut government down? really? we have new -- a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll and a bunch of numbers that tell you hot people say they will punish. and there is something that paul ryan didn't want to talk about yesterday when he unveiled his big plan to cut $5.8 trillion in government spending. most of those savings he talked about so courageously are offset by, get this a $4 trillion cut offsetting that $5.8 billion cut in spending, in tax cuts. more tax cut for the corporation and the wealthy. didn...

>> well, gingrich was a bomb-thrower. it's how he got to be speaker of the house. the it's what he did as speaker of the house. john boehner has constituencies here. he has independent voters to whom he's supposed to look rational and reasonable like he can run the government jointly with the president of the united states. but he also has all of these tea partiers who want him to blow up the government. they want to sort of burn the village to save the village. >> can boehner cut an amount of government money below what the president wants where the president will say, okay, i can take that. ...

Pop the emotional balloon here on the first thing, to keep it from being on the debt ceiling. >> exactly. can i be right, david? can i be brilliant? >> i'll go with that, chris, too. >> thank you, makes me feel good all weekend. thank you, you guys are great. up next, what's the worst bill passed by congress? was it the sedition act, the fugitive slave act of 1850? the missouri compromise? i hope i have my dates right. they say no, the worst bill in history was the obamacare bill. wow, this guy's perspective. check us out in the side show coming up next. you're watching "hardball" on msnbc.

arms around the budget and make public employees merely pay their fair share of benefits, or that same republican governor's out manufacturing a budget crisis in order to break the unions, especially one he doesn't particularly like. we've got people on both sides of this issue tonight. also, who wins if the republicans force the federal government shut down? i think a shut down's coming and maybe sooner than you think. plus, the gop is back at it again. you wouldn't be surprised. focusing on culture issues and abortion rights. whatever happened to all of the republicans talking ab...