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Together. obama obviously wants to talk about iran, but he also wants to talk about the palestinians. the prime minister of israel would rather only talk about iran, and he is sort of pushing publicly now to get president obama to say the toughest possible thing he would be able to say when he goes to jerusalem. i think obviously the nick burns is right more or less right that sanctions are having some impact, and i think netanyahu at different points has acknowledged that fact. i think there is more about previsit posturing. >> now, david, let's talk about syria for a second because what the ...

>> and briefly, david, there is news out of car auk yas where -- they're describing that he is back home in venezuela, and now they've expelled a defense atache which they've accused of u.s. defense attache who they accused of spying on them. it seems we'll have a lot of turmoil coming up in venezuela, one way or the other. >> absolutely. the door is opening now with chavez in his final days. certainly of exercising power. the door is opening for venezuela. it's something they take very seriously. it will be interesting to see in this post-chavez era how brazil falls, whether brazil alines its...

>> thank you. >> and joining me now is the washington post david ignacious and jeffrey goldberg. to you, dennis rodman, given everything that's happening in north korea? >> well, i mean, i actually was thinking dennis rodman might be useful in the middle east peace process. his sense of the absurd might come in handy. that's just my idea. >> indeed. >> that's just my idea. >> if not the tattoos. >> that would be fun. >> not a bad idea at that. well, speaking of the middle east, earlier on the program nick burns said that he thought that what prime minister netanyahu did in his remarks to apac ...

This is her big parting appearance, and i think the senate, even her critics on the gop side, are going to comment the performance that she has made as secretary. i think all of washington thinks she's done a good job. >> indeed. thank you very much, david, from the washington post. >> thanks. >> coming up next, 40 years after roe v. wade, a reaction to moments like these. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing done. >> life is a gift from god, and i think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that god int...

Columnist for the washington post. good to see you. some would say that this is sort of a reaction or a sort of side effect of the libyan civil war, groups moving into mali, then groups moving into algeria. i mean, there is a real concern about some of the groups are not technically idealogical. they're really criminals, smugglers, pirates, but al qaeda has gained strength in africa, and wea've got a problem. >> we do have a problem. it's a different problem from the problem that the u.s. had when osama bin laden was running an al qaeda that was focused on its core operations. now we see an al...