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Roundups and arrests of foreign athletes, gay athletes the minute they step on russian soil in sochi? no, i don't. i don't. but the way russian officialdom and putin, himself, talks about gay issues and the puppet parliament that he has going is disgusting. it's clearly disgusting and it has been for a long time. when i lived in the soviet union, we used to call it in the late '80s and early '90s these issues were not foremost. >> right. >> they became human rights issued in a visible way much later than it did in the united states. and it's -- it's frustrating and humiliating, but probably na...

Joining me, david, of the "new yorker," david, you've done fantastic reporting out of russia, both before when you were there and for the "new yorker" as well. what is putin's ply here? this really is, this is more than a thumb in the eye. this is a middle finger to the u.s. what's the play here? >> look, i'm an editor, a journalist. i have my feelings about transparency and all that's going on in the nsa. let's put that aside and look at russia/american relations. this is very damaging. i have a hard time believing obama will not go to st. petersburg and meet with the g-20 and maybe even puti...

Getting asylum in russia. joining me, david, of the "new yorker," david, you've done fantastic reporting out of russia, both before when you were there and for the "new yorker" as well. what is putin's play here? this really is, this is more than a thumb in the eye. this is a middle finger to the u.s. what's the play here? >> look, i'm an editor, a journalist. i have my feelings about transparency and all that's going on in the nsa. let's put that aside and look at russia/american relations. this is very damaging. i have a hard time believing obama will not go to st. petersburg and meet with t...

World order. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started. let's keep going, we have a terrific panel today, david remnik is the editor of the new yorker and the pulitzer prize winning author of "the last days of the soviet empire." and the foreign minister under boris yeltsin, and katrina reina was the editor and publisher of the left wing magazine and she was ambassador at large for the former soviet union. you they we're all overreacting to the helsinki summit.

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