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If they prevail this speech will be considered historic. if they don't and if we don't do enough to help them, the speech will not be remembered. i think that's the key thing. i agree rhetorically it was a great speech, explained the narrative. i completely agree with david. it was the best explanation of what the stakes are that we've heard from the president so far. i also agree with admiral stavridis, not one inch, don't touch nato. that statement also needed to be made. but the other phrase i think was very important is he started by quoting pope john paul ii when he first came to poland, ...

Sacred obligation" speech. he talked about our sacred obligation to nato, and it will also be the don't-even-think-about-it speech. kind of the american vernacular, don't even think about it vladimir. i think a strong speech delivered in context in warsaw, a city destroyed in the second world war and rebuilt. we don't want that again. i think it was a strong speech and sent the right messages. >> david, you wrote some beautiful words about this speech afterwards, but the clear lines that it drew. it is so interesting though. a lot of the bad-faith actors on the trump right who have been critic...

Place. we cannot go back to that. we cannot. >> in 1963 john f. kennedy challenged soviet tyranny in europe by declaring all free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of berlin. in 1987 ronald reagan stood at brandenburg gate and demanded- gorbachev tear down this wall. a generation later the 46th president of the united states delivered his own stinging rebuke of russian barbarism and once again divided the world, as david rothcoff writes, between the forces of democracy and those of autocracy, between those who value freedom and those who fear it. in historic old warsaw, president biden...

That there are some sort of frances and germanys that are beginning to hang back a little bit. >> so, joe, i just -- we were watching the speech together, of course, and i wonder if some administrations who are very quick to regroup on that off-the-cuff remark might have wanted to wait a beat and just say it is what the president felt, because i think the walk back is the weakness. it is what the president felt. >> again, i just say for everybody that's been criticizing, first of all -- >> oh, please. >> criticizing the president for saying it and then criticizing the staff for walking it back...

Will say something harder. well, what are they saying? what are they meaning? you know, we've been out front saying exactly what we're for, what we're doing, what's going on. i'm not just saying this. listen, i said it when reagan was president. i like the creative ambiguity. i like a president that goes out and calls the soviet union an evil empire. i know the state department freaked out at the time, the diplomatic corps freaked out at the time. that's fine. creative ambiguity. keep them guessing. david, your thoughts? >> vladimir putin is a serial war criminal who is committing as we speak ...