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Morning Joe

need is a serious conversation in this country about our ability to produce sufficient arms. we're moving into an incredibly dangerous world. look at the israelis, the iranians, the use of drones, the use of the new generation of missiles and so forth. we have got to, in some ways, catch up to the changing technology and build the industrial base to produce adequate stuff. we are not there. it'd be nice to put aside the politics once we get through this bill over the weekend and have a serious conversation about our ability to produce enough. >> you know, richard just uttered words that seem so, like, last century, serious conversation. we haven't seen serious conversations in this country anymore. i have a question for admiral stavridis, though. when we look -- okay, so we had the israeli response last night

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Morning Joe

a realization on the israelis. they have their hands full. they've still got gaza. they'll have to make some big decisions about rafah and occupation. they face, as the admiral was talking about, a massive threat from hezbollah still, and it got active a few days ago. it is possible the west bank will get more militarized. they have problems there. i think this is really an interesting case. you see it sometimes during the cold war, joe, that adversaries figure out how to signal. there is nothing formal, nothing explicit. i think what we saw here is actually some sophisticated signaling and messaging by israel and iran. >> you know, mika, iran has been careful not to escalate too much in this situation. also, people throughout the region that i spoke to after the soleimani assassination said

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both sides, it seems that both sides may be trying to pull it back from the brink. >> right. nbc's richard engel reporting from jerusalem, thank you very much. let's bring in now former supreme allied commander of nato, retired four-star navy admiral james stavridis. he is chief international analyst for nbc news. and president emeritus of the council on foreign relations, richard haass. he is author of the weekly newsletter "home and away," available on substack. also with us, former aide to the george w. bush white house and state department, elise jordan. and former chairman of the republican national committee and co-host of msnbc's "the weekend," michael steele. and pulitzer prize-winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post," eugene robinson is with us this morning. thank you, all, for joining us this morning. >> admiral stavridis, what's your best read on what happened last night and what's been happening over the last 12 to 4 hours? >> i think it was, indeed, a

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i'll close by giving you indicators to watch over the next few days. richard engel mentioned one of them, which are the public statements coming out from tehran and jerusalem. those are reassuring at the moment. number two is activity from hezbollah to the north. are they going to ramp up, be unleashed by tehran? they've got 100,000 plus missiles. that's the threat, i think, our israeli friends are watching for this morning. third and finally, you know, the admiral is going to say it, watch what happens at sea. if iran really wants to retaliate and go largely back against jerusalem, they could do it at sea against israeli shipping, or they could close the strait of hormuz. final thought, those are small probabilities at this point. i think we're probably in a position to see things settle down. let's hope so. >> richard haass, was this just

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iran was very quick to launch the missiles, to send a message to their people, but just as quick to call intermediaries and say, "tell the united states that's it." >> right. >> "we're not doing anything else. we just needed to do that." this is -- you have, in both the case of israel, as was just said, and in the case of iran, two countries that have enough on their hands right now. they do not want to get into a regional war with each other. >> that's the question, admiral. do you feel, as richard pointed out, israel has its hands full and it has its friends in the u.s. and also in the region who have really come to israel's defense in recent weeks, do you think they did just enough to send a message but not enough to look like they're not responding to the urging of friends in the region and by the u.s. to not make this worse and not to have it escalate into a wider war?

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just to move more quickly on the foreign aid pieces of this but also that he should not make any moves to try to change the rules around a one-member threshold on a motion to vacate. that conversation got very tense. there were more members now saying they have diminished confidence in the speaker. the person at the center of it, marjorie taylor greene, isn't giving any timeline or if she'll ratchet up her threat for his job. all of that is very much up in the air. the politics still very present. >> the speaker facing an actual, physical confrontation and insults from the maga members yesterday. >> yeah. >> another busy day ahead for you on capitol hill.vitali. richard haass and james stavridis, thank you, as well. to put a fine point on this, ukraine may have moved off the front pages of a lot of the newspapers recently, but it doesn't mean the threat has gone away. two days ago, a city in the north of ukraine was attacked during rush hour. 18 killed, dozens more injured.

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