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That? >> there are about 10 million workers according to the supreme court opinion that are covered by that mandate. some of those hospitals may have trouble filling positions as doctor makary says some of the employees want to get back to work they may have -- not be able to go back to work. that's the problem with the broad mandates about national level as they treat everybody the same. they do not allow any room for governors or local cities, local employees. each individual hospital to make the decisions that are best for their situation. david: dan, you wrote a column this week that looke...

That's all we cannot be is in policies designed for delta in an era of omicron. david: in europe and israel as well they allow natural immunity to substitute for vaccines. should we be doing that here? >> absolutely. here's why it is not just a philosophical debate. careers are being ruined by the government saying yes you have antibodies that neutralize the virus, but those are antibiotics that we as the government do not recognize. and unfortunately when the cdc says something like that, companies fall in line. we see careers are ruined we see students being removed from college. we see sold...

The presidential value of a decision like that would have been extraordinary. i think in this white house the progressive democrats have no reluctance whatsoever to try to push federal authority as far as they can on any basis that they can. and the fact the supreme court stopped them here at a time when the american public is becoming more skeptical of federal authority is a very, very good sign for those of us who believe in federalism. >> i believe you're right on that. kim, it's also going to make it hard for people like dr. fauci or facebook fact checkers they represent signs and those wh...

>> hasn't that already begun? we have a lot of hospital workers in the state of new york i believe 8000 hospital workers lost their job as they quit as a result of the vaccine mandates. it's causing staff shortages at a critical time in our history. >> ironically one of the hospitals in the northwest united states has had such significant staffing shortages they have actually told steph hey, come back even if you have symptoms. now that makes absolutely no sense to fire people who have immunity and no symptoms and they test negative. and then to bring in people who test positive into the clini...

See a variant and merge that spreads just as quickly as omicron but is more deadly? >> it is a possibility. the virus to mutate in a way is higher and higher. it's far more likely will see a variant mutate -- make most mutations are downward mutations over 99%. i do believe we are going to continue to see the virus mutate in the animal kingdom. that animal reservoir spit out new variant in perpetuity. maybe every couple of years or every viral season. but remember there's a host of over dozen viruses that cause the common cold that circulate season to season. it's not something we change our l...