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Celibate within your live in partnership. you couldn't have a blessing of your civil partnership inside the church. why did you stay in that church? because i love the church, because... but the church, in a sense, didn't love you. well, that's always true of institutions, isn't it? same of the bbc. lots of people love the bbc, doesn't love you back. you learn this, right? so you make your accommodation with it. if you think it's something worth doing, and i did, and there's much about the church that i do love and lot about the people in the church that i loved. and also my day to day experie...

But i sort ofjust have to do this, so... you've said that death brought up many difficult feelings from deep within you. and i think one of them, it's fair to say, and again, you're very frank about it, is guilt. guilt about how you and david lived together. he, as you say and describe in very painful detail, was an alcoholic. and that was very much related to the health problems that led to his death at a3. and you describe how once he died, you felt terrible, that you at times had not been understanding about his illness. yeah. i mean, anyone who's lived with an addict will know what that's ...

The other thing about it is that alcohol produces unreason. and if you're trying to work out how you're going to solve a problem, if the person you're trying to negotiate with is incapable of negotiation because they're not, they're not reasonable, that for me is a sort of kafkaesque scenario. awful. and i was so angry with david until i stopped being angry. just understood that he was in the grip of something that he could not control. and once i stopped being angry with him, our lives got a lot better, actually. but that guilt, is it still with you? i mean, you describe one particular incide...

Insurrection, says the federal prosecutor. the right. so any supreme court decision must remain in place forever or else you're committing an actu' of insurrection. legal scholars outreg there, are there any supreme court decisions through the ages that were overturned and that were happy were overturned? yes, probably quitepy a fewer plessy vs. ferguson any one .ss but it doesn't matter.yyo the legal experts are screaming about fascism. they're telling you it's only a matter of time before the supreme court brings back segregation, if not slavery. watch. this is just the beginning. next , we'...

He's not talking about this to the full extent of his thinking on this is unclear whether this was strategic issue to gain leverage in these particular talks or if there's something more long-range in his thinking. it is something psychological that he doesn't feel at home in the democratic party as much as he might've once felt. so, i think there are a lot of different motivations here, a lot of different factors, and we're not gonna get to the bottom until he talks more frankly about it. >> and zerlina, today, is also the day david's reporting is out there and at the same time you see kind o...