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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131207:20:44:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131207:20:44:00

Nobody ever declared de clerk a terrorist. that's not what happened. what they did was to label the response to the violence. and that is dangerous because it's arguing and it's saying that mandela who by the way never renounced violence -- in the 27 years he was in jail, they said to him, renounce violence and we will free you and he said, i will not because that manifesto said, we have two choices, submit or die. and they said, we will never submit. >> we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, minimum wage workers in more than 100 cities protested and demanded a livable salary. b...

CNN The Situation Room December 5, 2013 22:40:00 - Vimarsana News

CNN The Situation Room December 5, 2013 22:40:00

Nelson mandela, the fighter, the man who never surrendered to a brutal racist regime, who remains steadfast during 27 years in prison, has eventually given up. he's gone. everyone here in south africa will be saying good-bye. >> not only in south africa, but all over the world, people will be saying good-bye to nelson mandela for what he did for the people of south africa, what he did for all of africa, indeed, what he did around the world. christiane amanpour is with us. i understand you have a special guest to discuss this special day. >> i do, indeed. the remainformer south african presiden...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131205:23:09:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131205:23:09:00

Interviewed f.w. de clerk, the former president of south africa who was about to hand over power, and i asked him what is it going to be like to give up power? he looked at me and said a liberation movement has never been able to govern. we'll be back in power in five years. and when i saw nelson mandela a few days later and told him what he said, that was the only time that i have ever seen nelson mandela really get angry. he said why, when i was a prisoner i was telling that man what to do. why, of course he's not going to be back in power. and then he became the gentle giant that we all kno...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131205:23:12:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131205:23:12:00

There's been criticism about the approach that nelson mandela took, at the same time, i think he's credited with helping to avoid blood shed and a civil war by bringing in the people who were his very oppressors. and, you know, you can debate whether or not he gave away too much. but the point is that even though south africa today still has a long way to go to be the dream that mandela had for the country, there is very little blood shed of the kind that many thought would happen once a black majority came to power. >> now, there was -- and this is not often discussed -- but there was those t...

CNN The Situation Room December 5, 2013 22:38:00 - Vimarsana News

CNN The Situation Room December 5, 2013 22:38:00

Authorities helped him to lead one of the most remarkable political transitions of the 20th century. mandela, the trained lawyer and life-long rebel out-maneuvered the apartheid leaders, and he steered south africa's peaceful transition to democracy. he won a nobel peace prize together with his former enemy, the apartheid leader, f.w. de clerk. >> i devote myself to the well-being of the republic and all its people. >> reporter: then he became south africa's first black president in 1994. >> so help me god. >> what marks mandela's career as president more than anything else is after five years...