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Thousands, these are about, what, 4,000 people at this point? >> yeah. yeah. >> can we just give it some context. the national media has been doing such a poor job in terms of understanding the context here. >> there are 326 million people in america and 4,000 people is not an invasion especially when it's a bunch of little kids. >> dean, you wrote a piece in ""the daily beast"" after the sayok arrest, you wrote that donald trump decries guilt of association. there's zero doubt trump would be doing that very thing if the alleg alleged mega bomber had used social media to target critics. the sa...

Operation. i have that from the highest levels of the gaut at tuatemala government. a lot of these folks also have affiliates who are getting money from the saros occupied state department and that is a very grave concern. want to start cutting money, start cutting money there. >> none of that is true. joining me is dean ogadula and maria inohosu and cal perry and howard fineman. i'm going to you, first, cal. you've been doing reporting on this which dovetail with what you saw on fox news. >> the shooter was on a site called gab.com. that's what they would like to consider themselves a social ...