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Capitol hill with more. it looks like we are putting two major showdown. what are the expectations going into this big debate? >> good, morning. katie both sides are at a standoff, and that is because democrats, even frankly most republicans in congress, want a clean debt limit bill. then you have that group of republicans, mainly members of the house freedom caucus who made those concessions to the back room deal with kevin mccarthy to get him the speakership they negotiated with him over the death ceiling, saying that in order to get their support and raising the debt ceiling, which he needs...

Ceiling rank in terms of the problems joe biden this looking at? >> well the debt ceiling is more immediate crisis at this point. if they were to somehow failed to pass it, as you pointed out with that study, right about by the washington post, it would be economic consequences of an enormous damage to the country. so that's a higher priority i think at the moment. afghanistan is something that biden would just assume put in a rearview mirror. obviously he's trying to smooth things over with the french. but the death ceiling looms in front of him. in the end, washington constantly plays this g...

More than that the -- would have to regroup, write a piece of legislation, and passing a limit on what we could spend. that process was created in 1917 to placate the isolation who didn't want to untoward one. that is the very specific history on how we got, what we called the death ceiling, we got them in 1917 in the same way that we declared war in germany. -- took two tries but we didn't get over the debt ceiling gimmick that we used to placate people who objected the first one of those wars. we kept that for some reason. for more than 100 years now we have kept that. and it doesn't functio...

Think, this is the third or fourth time i've done it just today is to stop the nuclear program, stop the missiles, stop the aggression. that's what we're focused on. in regards to north korea, and we're going to continue pushing on that, continue working with our allies and partners to accomplish that and do what is necessary to achieve it. >> are they an add veversary? >> i think in some ways, they get to decide by the actions that they take. if they want to stop their nuclear program, stop the game, stop the missiles, stop the aggression, we may be able to find ways to move forward but those...

House is trying to put health care back on the table. are they being set up for failure? are we going to see pushback like we did before, which is, why did you even do that at this point? >> if you want support for the extender and the death ceiling, you can't go after obama at the same time. the wall, i think, is a little more cylinder. so don't think government pad are going, but obamacare, i think is toxic. >> let's see what mulvaney had to say about this. let's take a listen. >> we have a list of priorities. it won't surprise people what some of them are. we want more money for defense, we...