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He wants to back off right now, and i think he's worried. that's what i think. >> yeah, i mean, i guess it's the hypocrisy, bill, of sean hannity saying one thing on air and having this direct channel to actual decision makers, and trying to, you know, manipulate events behind the scenes and, you know, saying something differently behind the scenes. >> it's extraordinary. obviously fox is an organization that doesn't function as a news organization. and really, you know, hannity is in an interesting position. he could come forward, speak to the committee, and be honest and direct about what hi...

Very worried about and was clearly pushing back on all of these things about the white house counsel, et cetera, show you that there are witnesses that are going to testify to that. that is going to look really bad for him. i don't think he wants to be out front right now trying to make his case, especially in a press conference i assume someone would ask him some tough questions. so i guess he wants to back off right now and i think he -- he's worried. that's what i think. >> yeah. i mean, i guess it's the hypocrisy, bill, of sean hannity saying one thing on air, and then having this direct c...

Have done. >> you have to do it first though. >> we will. i'm telling you, jake. i don't know what day we're leaving here but we're not leaving here and it'll be the next few days until both bills are done and they will get done. >> okay. democratic congresswoman debbie dingell, thank you so much. appreciate your time. up next one powerful group accuses president biden of being out of the loop after biden denies his administration will pay money to families that were separated at the border. plus -- >> i honestly feel like i'm trapped in a body that doesn't function normally anymore. >> --...

Won't do well if the entire political system doesn't function in the way we're relying upon. it's really absolutely critical republicans and democrats understand enough is enough. enough with the games. democracy is at risk and we need to understand that democracy is about losing elections. if you lose and everybody knows when you lose, you go home and buy another day. if you don't do that, we'll suffer the consequences. >> we'll have you back. appreciate you coming on. be well. more than 90,000 people died who didn't have to in the last three months. that's according to a new study out toda...

One side doesn't emerge as victorious so republicans need to realize if they play this dangerous game, the whole democracy is going to come burning down and nobody will survive. it critical to understand you can't play recklessly with our democracy. >> listen, i think, obviously, the former guy is to blame for, you know, trying to have a coup after the last election to pull off a coup. but as you said, the folks in his own party are going with it. gop establishment are throwing in with the former president. here it is. >> i didn't accept the endorsement of a person that's got 91% of the republ...