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Looked like it was just pummeling the country, but slow compared to what we've had. we've also had much more severe variants, like the delta variant and omicron variant spreading. the final thing i would say is we still do have 40% of the country unvaccinated. we know they're at 20 times the risk of hospitalization, icu treatment and death, compared to people who are -- who are vaccinated. so it's the unvaccinated who are bearing a very big brunt of the deaths now. it is true, some people get breakthrough infections, who have been vaccinated, and god forbid, some of them die. but that's a rare...

Actually on "fox news sunday." >> my reaction is that we always like to see a deathbed conversions but the fact is if we would have done this kind of thing nearly a couple of years ago, we'd be in a lot better shape. >> here's why i'd arc ygue that that. you'd call it a deathbed conversion if the president had not been doing targeted tax credits to help small businesses from the first day he was in office. so there will be eight tax cuts already that have helped small businesses. >> all right. so you're seeing the political landscape of the argument being heated up for the midterms. president ...

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