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Israel's security and to ours. >> you're part of all that. let me ask you about the great mystery. beall talked about it back then. how did reagan get hold of jimmy carter's debate book? you put the book together with burt carp and david rubenstein. it was a big book how to approach reagan, how he's going to attack you, how you defend yourself. how did that get in the hands of reagan's debate people? >> first i confirm with an interview one of 350 that i did have jim baker who was a campaign manager. >> for reagan. >> for reagan. jim told me that william casey, who was the overall chairman, ha...

We were getting ready in the final throes of preparing al gore for the debates. one day, opened up an envelope that arrived in his office, and inside was what appeared to be george bush's debate book. he turned it all over to the fbi to find out how it wound up in his office. and most importantly, he withdrew from the gore campaign. he stopped talking to us. he pulled out of the gore campaign. we had to replace him in al gore's debate prep. that's what the trump campaign should have done here. when donald trump jr. got that e-mail saying the russians want to help your dad become president, he ...

Gore campaign when you got some material about george w. bush and decided had to call the fbi. >> it was september of 2000. we were getting ready in the final throes of preparing al gore for the debates. one day, opened up an envelope that arrived in his office, and inside was what appeared to be george bush's debate book. he turned it all over to the fbi to find out how it wound up in his office. and most importantly, he withdrew from the gore campaign. he stopped talking to us. he pulled out of the gore campaign. we had to replace him in al gore's debate prep. that's what the trump campaign ...

For him to attack her on the e-mail issue is going to be something that most democrats are going to the defend hillary about. so i think it is smart, and kin of the oldest trick in the debate book which is to defend your opponent in the schoolyard against the bigger bully and it makes her look small and you look big. >> and also that hand shake which stuck out to me, because it feels like any physical contact or anything on there, the alarm is going off. >> yes. ding, ding, ding. and brett, was this bad or okay in the handshake? >> it is fine, and she took it well. and it was not -- and she to...