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In college he was masterful at that. he might be an interesting presence at that. >> you've got a few people up on stage who are fairly talented and experienced debaters. this isn't your standard debate format. they've probably never been in a debate with ten other candidates. it's not as much a debate as a sound bite war. you're going to get 60 second to say something. and we all know what you say during the debate isn't as important as what's reported that you said at the debate the next day. you're going to be trying to get that sound bite for the next night's coverage. >> and make it perfe...

Business, as you know. i'm not looking to hurt anybody, i'm not looking to embarrass anybody. if i have to bring up deficiency, i'll bring up deficiencies, but i'd rather go straight down the middle but you don't know what's going to happen. >> he's spoken, jeff, in a lot of generalizations at this point. do you think we are going to see specifics coming from donald trump tomorrow? >> who knows if there will be time for specifics with all those superlatives. we know he's going to say he's terrific, we know he's going to say he is fantastic. the reality is even though the debate is a two hour d...

The politicians, all they do is debate. >> you won't have trouble with that. you will have the answers. i know you will. >> joining us now e.j. dion from the washington post and msnbc political analyst april ryan and washington bureau chief for urban american networks and josh pero new york times reporter and msnbc contributor. april ryan, there is bill o'reilly giving donald hint about how to handle this. it seems to me no one has to give donald trump suggestions about how to handle this. it will be up to the moderators to try to force him into the debate format. >> well, that's interesting y...

The washington post and msnbc political analyst april ryan and washington bureau chief for urban american networks and josh pero new york times reporter and msnbc contributor. april ryan, there is bill o'reilly giving donald hint about how to handle this. it seems to me no one has to give donald trump suggestions about how to handle this. it will be up to the moderators to try to force him into the debate format. >> well, that's interesting you would say that, lawrence. i talked to dr. ben carson, republican presidential candidate who has made the cut. i asked him about the donald trump issue ...

Mr. trump is averaging more than 23% support in the polls among republicans. next is jeb bush 12.8% followed by scott walker 10.6%. all the rest of the contenders are far back. so the upcoming debate is all about donald trump and how he will handle his frontrunner status. it is likely many will tune in simply to see my drama will trump go after his competitors or will he become a statesman trying to demonstrate that he has the political finesse to run the country? talking points does not know how the debate will play out which makes it exciting. now, some of you have asked why i'm not one of t...