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Presidential debate, let them pick the hosts who maybe are not indifferent but hostile to the republican message and the republican messengers. what response have you gotten from taking that stand? >> it's been tremendous, governor. obviously there is a lot of other things we need to do as well. when i talk about shortening our primary system, it's not an establishment takeover, but i happen to believe that six months of slice and ing and dic ourselves in the public media is a joke, and i think having 20 debates of a traveling circus in front of liberal moderators is another joke that's going ...

Dictate the terms of the next presidential debate, let them pick the hosts who maybe are not indifferent but hostile to the republican message and the republican messengers. what response have you gotten from taking that stand? >> it's been tremendous, governor. obviously there is a lot of other things we need to do as well. when i talk about shortening our primary system, it's not an establishment takeover, but i happen to believe that six months of slice and ing and dic ourselves in the public media is a joke, and i think having 20 debates of a traveling circus in front of liberal moderators...

Dictate the terms of the next presidential debate, let them pick the hosts who maybe are not indifferent but hostile to the republican message and the republican messengers. what response have you gotten from taking that stand? >> it's been tremendous, governor. obviously there is a lot of other things we need to do as well. when i talk about shortening our primary system, it's not an establishment takeover, but i happen to believe that six months of slice and ing and dic ourselves in the public media is a joke, and i think having 20 debates of a traveling circus in front of liberal moderators...

Republican national committee has rule-making authority now and we can tie the debate calendar. we can tie who the moderators are going to be to the nomination for president. in our rule book. we couldn't do that before. so now we can say, here is going to be the debate calendar. here is who the moderators are going to be. here are the debate partners. to the candidates, you can participate in these debates. but if you participate in debates other than the ones on the calendar, then there's going to be penalties. >> ooo, penalties. what penalties? leading up to the 2012 presidential election, ...

Clinton if she doesn't run, if she does run and loses, does run and wins. we will have a long time for these movies. there is no reason for them to do it now other than to build them up in the cult of personality of hillary clinton. >> we heard the discussion this morning on msnbc. you said this. >> i have to choose moderators that are actually interested in the republican party and our nominees. it is not going to be nbc if they continue to go forward with this mini series. >> you said you have to choose moderators. do you really believe that you are going to choose the moderators in all of t...