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Does it have to be bigger than 2008 for president obama to win? >> well, you know, i don't want to be -- you don't want to put too much stock in polls 40 days out, whether we're up, whether we're down, we're concentrating on that ground game. you mentioned the debates earlier in your opening comments, ed. you know, let's not discount the fact that mitt romney is an experienced and skilled debater. he -- >> he's been all over the map, congresswoman. i mean, the guy has been all over the map on health care, on taxes. i mean, he's -- huh? >> ed, keep in mind, though, he's a pretty decent closer. ...

To vote, obviously what we just talked about, is crucial. does it have to be bigger than 2008 for president obama to win? >> well, you know, i don't want to be -- you don't want to put too much stock in polls 40 days out, whether we're up, whether we're down, we're concentrating on that ground game. you mentioned the debates earlier in your opening comments, ed. you know, let's not discount the fact that mitt romney is an experienced and skilled debater. he -- >> he's been all over the map, congresswoman. i mean, the guy has been all over the map on health care, on taxes. i mean, he's -- huh? ...

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