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Labor. he knows a little bit about this. and i hope he does resolve it. >> you signed on to a letter encouraging the dnc to change debate qualifications. explain why you support that. >> well, i think we want as many people as possible to participate. i think that's fair. that's the right thing to do. and i think the american people and people who are going to vote in the democratic primary benefit from it. not very complicated. >> we're here in iowa. we're 50 days way from the caucus. >> southeast part of the state. and let's start -- your numbers have been improving. if you look in iowa and ...

And south carolina. that is up from the 2% threshold to qualify for the september and october debates. the number of unique donors needed as well will have to increase. from 130,000 to 165,000. candidates will need to hit both of the polling and grash grass roots thresholds to qualify for the debate stage. if you take those metrics, the only ones well above the new polling and fundraising threshold are listed. joining us once again white house reporter for "politico," gabby orr, let's talk about the new debate qualifications and it seems this is the tipping point for whittling down the field...

Kirsten gillibrand already cash strapped campaign, spending $1 million on air. you have to give her credit she's leaving everything on the field, but they're panicking to make the wednesday deadline or figuring out they'll never make it. >> so you killed hamlet in the first act there, but you didn't tell us exactly what happened. who is -- who is going to be dropping out today? >> can't say that yet. off the record. >> what do you mean -- >> wait a minute. i want to know. >> you can't? mike barnicle, i'm tossing this to you. >> it's the bottom half. for this reason, this person won't make the ...

Predicted. it wasn't all biden as the candidates called out president trump by name more than 160 times. that surprised me. certainly didn't feel that way with everyone jockeying for their last chance to grab voters' attention before the debate qualifications double even the friendly exchanges got a bit nasty. >> the first thing i'm going to do when i'm president is clorox the oval office. >> mr. president, this is america. and we are stronger and great because of this diversity, mr. president. not in spite of it. >> mr. vice president you want to be president of the united states. you need to...

Branding efforts. >> bret, i'm not sure that these debates will have that big or lasting difference. until the field is winnowed to some extent, which i don't think -- probably won't happen out of this set of debates. it may start to happen next month because of the debate qualifications for the next round are going to be so much more stringent, so many fewer candidates will qualify and we will begin to see that, but it is well to bear in mind that so far sentiment has proved to be soft and changeable and joe biden, who looked like he was severely damaged the last time around wasn't. it's not ...