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Like rick perry, though, to be fair, it's not totally clear that you can blame the first debate for chris christie's woes. he -- people thought he would be a good debater. he didn't make a splash at all. but negotiation that debate stuff he also has a lot of home state baggage you can't discount. the bridge gate scandal is still following chris christie like cans tied on to his bumper. the criminal trials in the bridge gate scandal are due to start this fall, that can never be too far from his mind on the campaign trail. and as he continues to serve as new jersey governor, yet another ghost of...

That if a candidate like carly fiorina continues to do well as she has been in recent poll, carly fiorina may bump chris christie out of the top ten so he will only be at the kids' table debate next month when that debate is hosted by cnn. like rick perry, though, to be fair, it's not totally clear that you can blame the first debate for chris christie's woes. he -- people thought he would be a good debater. he didn't make a splash at all. but negotiation that debate stuff he also has a lot of home state baggage you can't discount. the bridge gate scandal is still following chris christie like...

Job that matters. i think they want someone to shake things up in washington. people aren't familiar with our record in wisconsin. they say here's a guy that fought and won. got results. did it without compromising our common sense conservative principles. >> reporter: he was really leading here and still in many ways expected to do very well in iowa. that's a bit of a change saying that the trump movement lifting trump and others is real and walker's saying he's listening to the anger, hearing from voters. ari? >> yeah. as you know from the reporting, all of the fair is a chance to do the fac...

Op the debates. chaos on the debate stuff makes me hopeful something surprising will happen there. dan rather it's my pleasure. great to you have there, thanks. >> dan rather is the host of "le big interview" on axs tv. we have a big show tonight. frank richt will join us, stay with us. "how can my car depreciate before it's first oil change?" you ask. maybe the better question is why do you have that insurance company? with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.

High hopes about the debates which is what we'll be talking about later on in the show. the chaos on the debate stuff makes me hopeful that will ha real information could happen there. dan rather thank you. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> dan rather is the host "of the big interview on axis. stay with us. ime together. i do notice that sometimes i eat better than her. i get my healthy bowl of beneful, and she eats a cheese stick and a cracker. that's what she ate last night. cheese stick and a cracker. can you believe what some people put in their bodies? (vo) beneful original is a he...