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So many pieces and we have not seen that pattern before, and there are satellites covering and photographing this area. aircraft and ships searching the area, and we know that the existing debris pattern in that area of the ocean is consistent with very small debris bottles and components broken down from bottles and plastics and other small debris. not large chunks. >> you hear people saying this just shows you how much junk there is in the ocean. there's no that much junk concentrated in one spot in chunks that big. >> well, it's always possible that a large amount of cargo fell off of a shi...

Area, and we know that the existing debris pattern in that area of the ocean is consistent with very small debris bottles and components broken down from bottles and plastics and other small debris. not large chunks. >> you hear people saying this just shows you how much junk there is in the ocean. there's no that much junk concentrated in one spot in chunks that big. >> well, it's always possible that a large amount of cargo fell off of a ship and there it is. but it's very, very compelling because it is not consistent with the debris patterns in that particular ocean and that particular loca...

On sunday, that could have traveled 70 to 144 miles and that debris pattern could now be spread out much, much further. looking at that satellite we can see that it is consistent with a water disaster of a major airline. whether it is or not -- >> we can actually go that far? that the major airliner part? >> yes. yes, we can. it is consistent with what we've seen before in debris patterns. >> what tells us that as opposed to this is debris that has fallen off of freighters, tankers. is it the fact that it is so collected? coherent? >> it is so collected, there are

Or the debris, was photographed on sunday, that could have traveled 70 to 144 miles and that debris pattern could now be spread out much, much further. looking at that satellite we can see that it is consistent with a water disaster of a major airline. whether it is or not -- >> we can actually go that far? that the major airliner part? >> yes. yes, we can. it is consistent with what we've seen before in debris patterns. >> what tells us that as opposed to this is debris that has fallen off of freighters, tankers. is it the fact that it is so collected? coherent? >> it is so collected, there a...

Face. put the best face on a bad situation. malaysia in particular, trust the government, we know best for you. the shirt the captain was wearing, democracy is dead, was a sarcastic remark towards the current government that has been in power for 30 or so years. he is a pro-democracy advocate. >> last question. do you believe that ultimately this plane will be found? the wreckage or the plane in some fashion? >> we started out believing that the wreckage or the plane would be found. but we are dealing with 2.25 square million miles to search. we have 22,000 or so square miles in the air france...