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Grand bargain on this and look at the fact that, you know, you take three trillion in in and you spend four trillion. not sustainable. look, under president obama, if you recall, he ran for president saying that he would cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. he did that. and republicans hounded him about even as he cut the deficit in half, oh, it s touch. the debt goes up. the second neil: you re right about it. whatever debt just went up. you can always that when he came in us a, cutting the deficit wasn t as dramatic story i m saying what did trump do? neil: believe me, i ve seen debt building here too. i ve said it. and they re thinking about dunn ....