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Debt is one thing. unemployment, my individual well-being today, is separate. and we keep putting debt and the economy in the same place as the individual voter. and is it in the same place? >> no. accompanying the debt message, which i thought was a good strong message he delivered yesterday. one of the things i liked about it is when he says it's a republican problem, it's a democratic problem, because it positions him as the outside washington guy. but he also needs a pro growth economic message here. and he needs to take on the notion that the republican president can't call for reforming ...

200 phone calls from his apartment in minneapolis to new hampshire. then he drove four hours today. he's got family that lives close out here in iowa. he drove four hours to catch a glimpse of somebody i wanted to do before i died, he said. you don't find that kind of supporter at a romney event, at a gingrich event, at a santorum event. it's a different vib with paul. two of the rallies today. i've seen plenty of these rallies on tape as we cover them tochlt hear ron paul himself. you know, he's being attacked for his stance on iran and then this anti-sort of noninterventionist policy that he...

He drove four hours to catch a glimpse of somebody i wanted to do before i died, he said. you don't find that kind of supporter at a romney event, at a gingrich event, at a santorum event. it's a different vib with paul. two of the rallies today. i've seen plenty of these rallies on tape as we cover them tochlt hear ron paul himself. you know, he's being attacked for his stance on iran and then this anti-sort of noninterventionist policy that he has staid back in the debates. and when you go to the are rallies, that's the biggest thing. why ron paul? he's the one talking about -- and they'll m...