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Explains brexit, france, the industrial regions. productivity and wages, what have people done in response? they've taken on lots of debt, personal debt. that debt is very hard to pay that back when you're wages are not rising. politicians everywhere saying everything is fine, vote for us, through the past 30 years, they are not getting wages that are moving up. it's everywhere. >> tucker: without inflation of course, that is harder to pay that debt off. you had a line in here and i actually didn't check these numbers, hopefully you are right. in 2015, wall street bonuses totaled $28.4 billion...

The way it was explained to me, it would be everything i think the economy needs to be fixed. i have two questions. in the interim, that time between donald trump was elected and sworn in as president, the republican congress raised the debt over a $9.7 trillion. that scares me as a conservative that wants to live within our means, balanced budgets. you have any concerns about any of those two things? why did that happen? >> have a real concern about that. the same time he had barack obama's president, republicans in the house were laying out a budget that actually balanced and paid off the de...

The economy needs to be fixed. i have two questions. in the interim, that time between donald trump was elected and sworn in as president, the republican congress raised the debt over $9.7 trillion. that scares me as a conservative that wants to live within our means, balanced budgets. you have any concerns about any of those two things? why did that happen? >> i have a real concern about that. the same time we had barack obama as president, republicans in the house were laying out a budget that actually balanced and paid off the debt. something the democrats did not -- in the process of where...

Wages have stagnated. it's not just in the u.s., it explains brexit, france, the industrial little regions. productivity and rages, wages, what have people done in response? they've taken on lots of debt, personal debt. that debt is very hard to pay that back when you're wages are not rising. politicians everywhere saying everything is fine, vote for us, through the past 30 years, they are not getting wages that are moving up. it's everywhere. >> tucker: without inflation of course, there is harder to pay that debt off. you had a line in here and i actually didn't check these numbers, hopefull...

Cards, credit card companies are not going to help you. they have deals with the creditors you can't get on your own, 6% 7% much lower rates. you got to close the accounts and get this under control and pay the debt off, instead of just getting more debt. >> if you're in distress but an awful lot of debt they could end up not getting paid. >> they'd rather get something better than nothing. cambridgecredit.org have helped many people for a long time. they're not giving you a new credit card, you make one payment to cambridge, they pay the credit cards. >> credit card surfing, might seem safer ...