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Environmental law center. has had real victories in south carolina and starting to win in north carolina. thank you for your time time. congratulations on this much thus far. >> thank you, rachel, very much. coming up tonight, we have another installment of debunktion junction. ever seen us do the debunktion junction thing? it's where the thing comes on at the beginning. we do debunktion junctions every once in a while when we seem like there's a critical mass of bunk in the news cycle that needs to be debunked. people stuff might think is true or things that people think aren't true that ac...

Be optimistic but be cautious. a distance has been traveled and it's largely due to the ball that you started rolling, frank holleman. senior attorney with southern environmental law center. has had real victories in south carolina and starting to win in north carolina. thank you for your time time. congratulations on this much thus far. >> thank you, rachel, very much. coming up tonight, we have another installment of debunktion junction. ever seen us do the debunktion junction thing? it's where the thing comes on at the beginning. we do debunktion junctions every once in a while when we se...

It's largely due to the ball that you started rolling, frank holleman. senior attorney with southern environmental law center. has had real victories in south carolina and starting to win in north carolina. thank you for your time time. congratulations on this much thus far. >> thank you, rachel, very much. coming up tonight, we have another installment of debunktion junction. ever seen us do the debunktion junction thing? it's where the thing comes on at the beginning. we do debunktion junctions every once in a while when we seem like there's a critical mass of bunk in the news cycle that n...