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The revoking party and the policy that emanates there from is being attacked because per se doesn't include substantial diversity that looks like the country. >> tucker: so i'm just saying and i'm sure this does occur to you but if you have a political conversation where one group is starting to attack another group on the basis of its race that you could wind up with a country where all groups start attacking other groups on the basis of theirs, he could wind up with a really divided dangerously so country can. >> i think we disagree on the premise that people are being attacked on the basis ...

Doris kerns goodwin joins me. we're at the 100 day mark tomorrow. the president has no milestone legislative achievement. no real legislative achievement at all. record low approval ratings. how much of a predictor is the first 100 days for the next 1,000 days? >> i don't think that the content of the first 100 days matter as much as what has the president learned from it. think about general kjohn kenne. he had the bay of pigs and he acknowledged he made mistakes. he changed his decision making structure. that did him incredibly well when the cuban missile crisis came. the question is not so ...

And that humbling experience can make you a more focused president. >> no question. in fact, the more important thing to understand about the 100 days is not what is accomplished or what isn't accomplished but does the president learn from the experience of being there. are they self-reflective. the comments he's made about how much harder he thought it would be, more complicated, it's an honesty to that understanding. if you can grow, think about j.f.k. and the bay of pigs. it was a disaster. as he said, it's a hard way to learn from that kind of failure, but he learned. the cuban missile cri...

I do believe that there is enough connection between isis and al qaeda, mesotabian al qaeda that i fought that justifies it. if you're going after assad -- the assad regime, hezbollah or any of its allies, you need to come back to congress. there is no nexus there. it makes very little sense. we need to know what the plan is. we need to know where this is going before this truly escalates to the point beyond the control of where any of us want to go. >> the point the congressman made there about associated forces is that. isis is a plausible way of interpreting associated forces there with ass...

The assad regime, hezbollah any of its allies, you need to come back to congress. there is no nexus there. it makes very little sense. we need to know what the plan is. we need to know where this is going before this truly escalates to the point beyond the control of where any of us want to go. >> the point the congressman made there about associated forces is that. isis is a plausible way of interpreting associated forces there with assad it's -- >> very difficult. >> yeah. >> what do you think about the sort of -- the kind of next step idea, right? particularly the sort of ways in which -- i...