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25,000 on the dow. that's where we are. steve: unbelievable. we have heard so much about apple and the problem apple has been having is with china. if the president is able to broker some sort of a deal with xi of china that's going to help. that's going to help us here. >> if you saw that press conference it wasn't a press conference it was a televised discussion with china. it was brilliant. actually. i really loved it that seemed to me to clear the decks for a deal in the future where mr. trump and president xi get together and finalize a deal. it was a deck clearing exercise. that is very ...

>> because it's a deck clearing exercise. she's a lightning rod. would have been a lightning rod going into the elections. get her out of there and you waited until kind of you had at least the plausible signup numbers to be able to quote, but now let's move her out. she wasn't going to help in the election. they hope to get this confirmation of her successor done early. i think the danger for the democrats is the republicans will use this as an opportunity to reopen the debate and try to find some of the facts that we don't know yet about how many people have paid their premiums, how many peo...

>> because it's a deck clearing exercise. she's a lightning rod. would have been a lightning rod going into the elections. get her out of there and you waited until kind of you had at least the plausible signup numbers to be able to quote, but now let's move her out. she wasn't going to help in the election. they hope to get this confirmation of her successor done early. i think the danger for the democrats is the republicans will use this as an opportunity to reopen the debate and try to find some of the facts that we don't know yet about how many people have paid their premiums, how many peo...

Did. the departure of the secretary of health and human services who presided over obamacare's rollout debacle is best understood as one more attempt to dodge political responsibility. why. why do you say that? >> because it's a deck clearing exercise. she's a lightning rod. would have been a lightning rod going into the elections. get her out of there and you waited until kind of you had at least the plausible signup numbers to be able to quote, but now let's move her out. she wasn't going to help in the election. they hope to get this confirmation of her successor done early. i think the dan...