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Watergate and it shouldn't be happening now because the answer is obvious. that a subpoena trumps -- no pun intended -- trumps anything else. they have a legitimate right, and of course the court opinions now have been very clear that the congress is conducting a legitimate lawful mandated inquiry. and even the vote which will now happen and i'm sure will pass, but even without that it was totally legitimate, and they should be allowed to use the subpoena power and people come in and testify, and they're in contempt if they don't follow the subpoena. so it's very hard to get a court to issue w...

Trumps -- no pun intended -- trumps anything else. they have a legitimate right, and of course the court opinions now have been very clear that the congress is conducting a legitimate, lawful, constitutionally mandated impeachment inquiry, and even without the vote which will now happen and i'm sure will pass, but even without that it was totally legitimate, and they should be allowed to use the subpoena power and people come in and they testify and they're in contempt if they don't follow the subpoena. so it's very hard to get a court to issue what's called a declaratory judgment because ther...

Impeachment inquiry. that's how i see it with respect to the white house. now with respect to mr. kupperman, the white house said you may not testify. and congress said you will testify. what he did was file for what's called a declaratory judgment. he's asking the federal court in the district of columbia to tell him yes or no. who has the better of the argument? and if this can be done in an expeditious manner, i actually think that it would be a nice precedent to have for a federal court judge in d.c. to say, you know what, this constitutional immunity, this absolute immunity that the white...

The census. will anything come of this? >> wright, bill barr is going to recommend indicting himself. i don't think so. nothing happens with criminal contempt and was attorney general authorizes the justice department to prosecute. that's another thing i don't understand. they could -- congress could have held them in civil contempt, gone into district court and try to get a declaratory judgment, but i guess that wouldn't have been as exciting, or they were afraid may be that they were going to lose. instead, they've done something that's entirely symbolic, will have no effect whatsoever. they...

The census. will anything come of this? a >> right, bill barr is going to recommend indicting himself. i don't think so. nothing happens with criminal contempt unless the attorney general authorizes the justice department to prosecute. that's another thing i don't understand.on they could -- congress could have held them in civil contempt, gone into district court and try to get a declaratory judgment, but i guess that wouldn't have been as exciting, or they were afraid maybe that they were going to lose. instead, they've done something that's entirely symbolic, will have no effect whatsoever....