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True history. hasn't all of that been taught that all of these people are so upset about, adam? >> well, i think newt actually told what you his problem is. it's okay to talk about slavery in the context of a redemption ark for white people. if you talk about it as a vehicle for redemption of the ideals of the founders, that's fine. if you talk about slavery from a black perspective with the black people at the center of it, that's defensive and dee legitimatizing. there is an ideological nugget of truth here in that if you look back and you see the country as fundamentally shaped by this inst...

Credibility, and robert mueller if i could, robert mueller might have been on the short list for fbi director. and he was not given that chance, and instead came here and somehow trump is trying to spin that as if he has something against him. i think nothing could be further from the truth. robert mueller, for anyone who knows him, has worked with him, does not hold personal grievances and i don't think wanted to take a second shot at having that job. he'd been fbi director a long period of time before that. he's trying to dee legitimatize rod rosenstein saying he was the deputy. he had the b...

Fashion. we've never gotten a really good explanation for why that is. perhaps he thinks it's because diplomatically it's smarter for him to keep a relationship with vladimir putin. perhaps there are other reasons, but it has of course raised suspicions about why it is he has been so reluctant for all this time. >> well, your story is on the web page next to maggie haberman and mike schmidt's story. mike schmidt got out of that chair. it offers a viable explanation one of the reasons might be bob mueller is now looking into the trump organization's ties to moscow. >> well, that's exactly right...