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History are speaking and they re speaking under oath, which is important to note. so i think this could be potentially valuable. we have not heard cipollone on videotape to date. and i think if he does participate he s going to be able to corroborate or not. we know cipollone was involved in these critical moments. what do you think is the most important thing he could tell the committee. look, i think as jonathan just alluded to if pat cipollone were to testify and corroborate the elements of cassidy hutchinson s testimony where she was describing the legal warnings from the white house counsel that the president had in the run up to january 6th and the messages from the white house counsel to senior white house staff about the very real ....
He was meeting without his knowledge which was strictly against white house policy. mr. cipollone told mr. clark to stand down and he didn t. so a lawyer familiar with cipollone s thinking telling cnn that he ll probably agree to a transcribed interview but limited to specific topics to avoid privilege issues. okay, what does that exactly mean? we re going to answer that because i m not sure what that means. i m not sure elie honing who i ll have here in a minute knows what that means but we re going to ask him. this is just moments ago. this is liz cheney. she s speaking at the reagan library. watch. we have to choose because republicans cannot both be loyal to donald trump and loyal to the constitution. okay, so she said it out loud. and now a republican party ....
Denver you served on the january 6th committee until recently and you helped to sift through all the communication coming into this committee. how important could this testimony be? i think it would be very, very important and i do not have the brilliant legal mind of elie honing or the expertise. looking at the data i ve looked at i m very curious to see what cipollone has to say about the conversations going on with meadows. and the fact is cassidy s testimony was so strong i want to see what cipollone has to say about it. and i said this earlier, don, she really was the adult in the room. and the things she was saying i think really struck a cord with the american people. i would say out of all the hearings this was the most effective because it showed ....
With cipollone and others even cassidy hutchinson or meadows are they privileged as well in. no. they re not going to be privileged. if you have white house counsel talking with other that s probably not going to be privileged. i m sure they want to ask him about conversations he may have had to with hutchinson, right, to cooperate what she said against what he said. and the thinking may be let s get something. it s better than nothing. it s still important for us to hear about cipollone s conversations with mark meadows, with cassidy hutchinson, with others. but, again, the cost for them doing that may be them giving up his conversations. i haven t forgotten about you, but let me just ask you what is the difference i m talking to elie now, a transcribed interview limited, what does that mean? that means he s not going to testify in public. all right. okay, got it. ....