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to answer more questions after previously sitting for an interview behind closed doors. that was this april. the committee saying it s continued to obtain evidence that he s uniquely positioned to testify but he has declined to cooperate. further leaving the panel with no choice but to issue the sub subpoena. we have heard some of what the evidence was for ourselves . sglb i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of, the rye ioters have gotten to t capitol. mark looked up and said he doesn t want to do anything pat. pat said something to the effect of and very clearly, said this to mark, something to the effect of, mark something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood will be on your eff ing hands. this is getting out of control. i m going down there. i remember saying that letter this guy wants to send that letter is a murder/suicide pact. it will damage every one that touches it. we should have nothing to do with that letter. pat sai ....
subpoenas pat cipolline. the witness talked about him. every one has been talking about that. pat cipollone is the former president s white house counsel, a key witness to what was going on inside the white house the days before, the time during and after the attack on the united states capitol. we have been trying to get him to answer they have been trying i should say to get him to answer more questions after previously sitting behind closed doors in april. the committee has been saying it s trying to obtain evidence that cipollone is, quote, uniquely positioned to testify but he has declined to cooperate further leaving the panel no choice but to issue the subpoena. and we have heard some of what the evidence was for ourselves. pat cipollone s name coming up again and again and again as i said in testimony before the committee. watch. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don t go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we r ....
If he really does play ball even in a limited way, i think it s just a massive breakthrough for the investigation. interesting. jonathan don. go on. to put finer point on that. on the afternoon of january 6th, senator lindsey graham, one of the closest allies in the senate called cipollone using direct language urged pat cipollone to urge the rioters to go home and as we report in our book, he says if trump doesn t that do that, we re going to call for the 25th amendment. that s lindsey graham on the phone on the afternoon of january 6th. that s one slice of pat cipollone s day on january 6th. there s a lot more he knows beyond that one call. that one call does offer some i sight as just how deep cipollone was into this moment. another example of lindsey graham, a person who says one ....
To know is the couch privileged information. meadows is sitting on the couch texting. if the couch isn t privileged and meadows isn t privileged, that s what i want to know. i m interested to see what he has to say about the communications going on with meadows and the fact is the testimony was so strong, i want to see what cipollone has the say about it. she really was the adult in the room. the things she was saying struck a chord with the american people. it showed behind the saens and just where the mind set of where donald trump. i think a lot of us have known this for a while but finally see that in the hearing was very important to me. during cassidy s testimony, she was countdown what mark meadows was doing starting around the 2:00 p.m. hour and she described mark meadows as not really caring about what was going on. scrolling on his phone. ....
The testimony would be taped or live. this comes after repeated requests for the committee for him to appear willingly. they ve been trying to get him to answer more questions after he sat for a closed door interview in april. let s discuss now. jonathan martin and alex burns who are are authors of this will not pass. they join me now. love having you two on so let s get to it. good evening. jonathan, cipollone may agree to this limited interview when so many others in trump s inner circle have stone wall. what is the possibility he may potentially do this even if it s limited? it gets in the room if you will of trump s white house in the days leading up to january 6th itself, and that could spell trouble for the former president if more of his advisers, more people who were with him in those crucial days in american ....