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to answer more questions after previously sitting for an interview behind closed doors. that was this april. the committee saying it's continued to obtain evidence that he's uniquely positioned to testify but he has declined to cooperate. further leaving the panel with no choice but to issue the sub subpoena. we have heard some of what the evidence was for ourselves . sglb i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of, the rye ioters have gotten to t capitol. mark looked up and said he doesn't want to do anything pat. pat said something to the effect of and very clearly, sa...

subpoenas pat cipolline. the witness talked about him. every one has been talking about that. pat cipollone is the former president's white house counsel, a key witness to what was going on inside the white house the days before, the time during and after the attack on the united states capitol. we have been trying to get him to answer -- they have been trying i should say to get him to answer more questions after previously sitting behind closed doors in april. the committee has been saying it's trying to obtain evidence that cipollone is, quote, uniquely positioned to testify but h...

If he really does play ball even in a limited way, i think it's just a massive breakthrough for the investigation. >> interesting. jonathan -- >> don. >> go on. >> to put finer point on that. on the afternoon of january 6th, senator lindsey graham, one of the closest allies in the senate called cipollone using direct language urged pat cipollone to urge the rioters to go home and as we report in our book, he says if trump doesn't that do that, we're going to call for the 25th amendment. that's lindsey graham on the phone on the afternoon of january 6th. that's one slice of pat cipollone's day ...

The testimony would be taped or live. this comes after repeated requests for the committee for him to appear willingly. they've been trying to get him to answer more questions after he sat for a closed door interview in april. let's discuss now. jonathan martin and alex burns who are are authors of "this will not pass." they join me now. love having you two on so let's get to it. good evening. jonathan, cipollone may agree to this limited interview when so many others in trump's inner circle have stone wall. what is the possibility he may potentially do this even if it's limited? >> it gets in...

Seats. it does matter who is committed to truth. it does matter who is committed to democracy and who gets elected in these seats this november. people need to let their voices be laerd. i'm not going to tell people how to vote but vote your value, your conscious. look at the candidates and get involved. >> congressman, thank you. i appreciate your candor and your time. thanks so much. >> thank you. it has been bombshell after womabombshell in the january 6t investigation. now cipollone has opinion subpoenaed. will all this change how the gop looks at trump? that's next. machine you're never...