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Behavior. now they are taking it to the wood shed. and then you have ben carson. >> that dining room set. >> he threw his wife under the bus for ordering that table set. >> she had ordered it and he was checked out. >> not classy ben carson. he pushed to remove anti-discrimination language. why do that? according to the "new york times", deep reporting, pulling back on the fair housing actment that's one of the fundamental reasons it exists. that itself should be the ledger against him. >> he's probably just echoing the thoughts of the president.

With the ambassador. what's interesting, though, is why he lied about it. that's something that donald trump was not able to discuss or to explain. >> right. various times in that conference, he said he did nothing wrong. he blamed the media and i fired michael flynn because of his lie to mike pence. he said three different things. >> three different things. it's difficult to say, to understand where donald trump thought flynn was wrong. if he was able to discuss sanctions, but lied about it, why was that the case? >> let me play a little of this to get a sense of what we are talking about in ...

You're feeding immediately. obviously, you're running msnbc.com right now. there's something different about the deep reporting, i'm thinking of the really incredible and devastating story about pitford reporting that came out in "the new york times" just yesterday. only a paper can do that, right? only a paper can send a reporter, get that deep and get that story. >> i disagree. i think you do it online and i think you can do it on television. you can do it more powerfully because you can do it with images. you have to have a return in order to pay the salaries and as you pointed out to make ...

The u.s. was engaging in these activities was received here in the news, i mean it was played out in the news media, covered quite widely but it wasn't a surprise to anyone here. the drone issue has been a real part of the dialogue at all levels, the public level and the official level ford quite some time now. there's a lot of anger towards the u.s. on that issue alone. >> amna nawaz, terrific to have such deep reporting. reporting from islamabad and today from abod ta bod. thank you for being with us. michael leighter served to both president bush and obama. he was in the situation room th...