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Now really testing decades-long systems. the way that we protect ourselves. the way we advance our security presence in the world is based on this premise you described. our first strike capability. canfirst-strike capability. can you talk about what people inside defense circles would say if the power of an american presidency were limited because of donald trump? >> well, before it gets to that point i think that it's -- it's worth noting that there is a conversation in defense circles right now about what would happen if president trump decided to order that first strike. a pre-emptive nucl...

We all recognized then, recognize today, we are on the opposite side of iran on a lot of issues in that region from yemen to lebanon and syria, human rights, missiles, the deal is about taking the existential threat off the table. >> so iran, i think it's universally held opinion, within like defense circles and intelligence circles. iran stirs the pot within the middle east if terms of terror and increased warfare, more than any other nation, perhaps the most powerful nation in the middle east. why should we then believe that inspectors, on site inspectors, can do the job? convince me why we ...

To up hold the oath we took when we swore into the office. for many of them they're saying they're getting the ability back to do their job and some of them had argued and filed a lawsuit against the previous administration saying they weren't able to enforce the laws as they were written and a constitution. a new day for them and talk as well there may be a beefing up of immigration judges because there is such a massive backlog of cases that if they can't process people and they're held for months or years at a time that's another issue. >> bill: in the meantime at the white house you have a...

With figures like general patton. the other thing that's interesting, this speaks more to steve bannon, the president's chief strategist, is general mcmaster was a skeptic and a harsh critic of the decision-making that led up to the vietnam war and led to the continued blood-letting in vietnam over all those years. he wrote a book in the late '90s called "dereliction of duty" which has become sort of the rosetta stone for people who study the problems in vietnam. it's interesting to note that the book that steve bannon suggested that most white house staffers in the west wing read prior to com...

>> well, that's kind of unclear. but the suspicion around the sort of late 2000s that emerged in intelligence circles, in defense circles, was that as more of our lives migrate into massively multiple online role playing games like warcraft and others, more people would seek to use them as sort of online sanctuaries where you wouldn't think intelligence agencies like the nsa would be watching, so they could potentially discuss planning attacks like that. >> do we have any idea how many agents might be playing this game, these games, at any one time? >> i have some suspicion about people who ha...