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Whistleblowers. suddenly we cover in fact his sources were probably at the white house. i think what you see here is the devin nunes may have been setd up by the white house in all of this and that he ends up looking bad. he takes the fall. it has hurt him and his credibility tremendously within his own committee and perhaps even with paul ryan. i don't know the answer to that specifically. i know they're very -- they're very good friends, but i do think that the devin nunes handled this badly and if he was used by the white house, it certainly isn't helping him. >> a lot more to come on that....

Nothing more. nothing more to answer. >> reporter: so, not willing to engage in the tit-for-tat, jake. it wasn't just republicans defending him or attacking donald trump. we saw it from both parties including close ally lindsey graham. made a very important point. >> one thing i would advise the trump administration is don't oversell success. it's a never a failure when you engage the enemy. and when you lay down your life in the homeland, you're a hero in every sense of the word. and i don't think anybody in the body has been more supportive of our troops than senator mccain. >> reporter: now...

Administration on defense issues. thank you very much. >> you are listening to house speaker paul ryan. ryan lizza and lynn sweet. house speaker right out of the gate saying i'm not going to comment on whether the media overreports or underreports terrorism. right out of the gate the house speaker saying obamacare, we're going to pass legislation some time this year, despite what the president said, maybe next year, and right out of the gate, paul ryan saying maybe the president wasn't criticizing federal judges. >> he's been criticizing the media, federal judges and he gives the answer any ...

That everybody was saying was that, you know, nancy was always, you know, accused of being too tough. she had to be tough. >> right. >> because ronald reagan took the last person he talked to, he took their advice and went with it. then it was nancy that had to hammer him hard. >> who is that person for trump? >> there is not that person -- well, i actually think if it's defense issues, it's jim mattis and if it's state issues, it's rex tillerson. >> i have a question of how long that sort of influence can last. i mean, he's got so many people coming to him and he is loyal for as long as he ne...

>> the old program covered 20 to 30% to search for terrorists, the new program covers nearly 100%. that gives us greater ability to stop acts of terrorism. >> reporter: exchanges that highlighted the pair's different approaches to defense issues. rubio favors more u.s. intervention and is committed to syrian president bashar al assad. >> we're the most powerful nation in the world. we need to begin to act like it again. >> cruz wants less intervention ov overseas. >> if we topple assad, the effect will be isis will topple serious. >> reporter: with the iowa caucuses less than seven weeks away,...