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Process. have crs become the new normal in washington? what are the consequences of that when it comes to the state department? >> unfortunately, they have become the new normal. if you talk to anyone in our military, they will say it's an awful way of planning. it restricts them. we want to get a budget resolution, but i heard your earlier guest talking about the d.r.e.a.m.ers. i was one of the democrats, among others, who believe that we need a solution to the d.r.e.a.m.ers before we just allow government to go on, that it's a moral issue. so we're going to have a lot of work to do when we g...

This segment are not jail house snitches. these are made guys, career law enforcement people who have faces like affidavits. they have no motive to lie. bits corroboration and that's what we're seeing in this case. if this may be death by a thousand cuts, this may be corroboration by a couple of guys who again are truly worthy of belief. >> and brian, talk about the money trail which is something else that's circulating. a lot of talk about deutsch bank and whether their records would be useful to mueller. then you have this new account. the prosecutor seeking kushner records. -- lent hundreds...

Motivated. brought out to stop a very successful campaign and that's what they're doing. i've never known this woman or anything. >> never talked to her, don't know her from anybody. if anyone can put the two of them together, it will prove that part of his statement to be false. little risky from a defense perspective, is it not? >> yes, it is. you don't want to stake out that ground. you don't know what else it could have showed. but remember, he obviously is as a lawyer, and a former chief justice of their supreme court, he understands that there's nothing that there's no harm so to speak. ...

I believe they're politically motivated and to stop a successful campaign. and that's what they're doing. i've never known this woman or anything. >> never talked to her, don't know her from anybody. if anyone can put the two of them together it will prove that part of his statement to be false. a little risky from a defense perspective, is it not? >> yes, it is. you don't want to stake out that ground. you don't know what else they could show. i don't know that i would have said it. but remember, he obviously, as a lawyer and say former chief justice in the supreme court, he understands that ...

And partners are publicly questioning u.s. commitment to safety and security on the continent and, in fact, even our global leadership. that's not fake news. you can see it in their speeches and public interviews and comments and i think this is an opportunity for him to try to repair some of the damage that he did when he went to brussels and refused to proclaim our commitment to article 5. he needs to take this opportunity to, as i said, to convince the continent that we are with them. he needs to say to our allies and partners, particularly in poland when he goes there to today, say to them...