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That we mentioned earlier and that is the change in the focus of what world leaders think nato should be working on. i mean, the continental europeans are very much concerned with terrorism, immigration from countries to the south, the flux of people across borders and so on, this is a major defense problem. and they are less concerned with other variables on the fence of the european continent. and the american view is very much different. if you talk to military people, american military people, they will tell you our focus certainly is on the middle east, but we have long term strategic pla...

Credibility works. this is dangerous tough. the world is not getting safer. you couple that with an ee ra ti this president. it is an american defense problem. >> back to these cyber attacks that have been reported. i don't know if you were at the aspen security meeting discussed at high altitude. talking about iran's capabilities. he'll read a by from that at the time. >> saying iran is making

Epresident's position. first, this is not a national emergency as set forth in the statute, the national emergencies act. this is not an emergency. this is an immigration problem, illegal immigration problem has been with us for decades and indeed is on a much lower scale today than it has been in some past years. it is not a national emergency within the meaning of the statute. second, if it were deemed to be a national emergency in that statute, if the statute were that broad to allow this it would probably be unconstitutional because what the president is doing here is raiding funds that ha...

Talkshow host george rodriguez. thank you for joining us. >> how are you doing? heather: the reagan and hw bush administration, is this possible? >> yes it is. it is very simple. we have a problem on the board with crime, not only immigration but crime and possible terrorism. these issues can lead to a national defense problem. using military dollars is something that can be done and justified easily. just a question of getting those resources lined up and used properly. unfortunately the situation where democrats are playing games and restricted how money

>> i'm sorry. >> this is a problem for everyone. not just a defense problem or a homeland security problem. it's one that really spans the federal departments, the states, everybody has a share in responsibility in protecting the foundations of our democracy. >> jack, you wanted to respond. >> i agree 100%. i don't care who's helping to defend the country. as a matter of fact, right now, there's a war going on. cold war 2.on we're right in the middle of it. it's constantly happening. i think the defense department as well as intelligence agencies as well as the public have a role to play here....