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You're not going to be able to actually sustain any sort of deficit reduction program over the long term. so, you know, i agree with the sentiment that david brooks is expressing, but, you know, first and foremost, this should be about jobs, i think, for any political party. >> yeah. but how do we -- reining in spending, worry being our debt, is that something our country can't handle conceptionally, john heilman? >> it is a hard thing. i remember a decade ago in the wake of ross perot, people used to think -- the way to animate this concept is generational equity. could we rally young people ...

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Compact. well, he is certainly not wrong about that but that social compact is about to collapse of its own weight if we look at the budget projections going out not very many years from now. they have resulted in what everyone agrees is aoun unus sustainable debt spending. >> bill: everybody doesn't agree with that don't you read the "new york times" editorial page don't you see nbc and the blogs. >> even those media outlet does not dispute we have a serious budget. >> bill: the country can take on more debt if the economy grows. >> yes, that's true. i think he. >> yeah, i think he sees the d...

Compact. well, he is certainly not wrong about that but that social compact is about to collapse of its own weight if we look at the budget projections going out not very many years from now. they have resulted in what everyone agrees is aoun unus sustainable debt spending. >> bill: everybody doesn't agree with that don't you read the "new york times" editorial page don't you see nbc and the blogs. >> even those media outlet does not dispute we have a serious budget. >> bill: the country can take on more debt if the economy grows. >> yes, that's true. i think he. >> yeah, i think he sees the d...