the country, specifically, gender roles. today in tennessee the republican governor billy see signed two controversial new laws. one bans gender affirming care for minors and the other restricts drag shows in the state. let s bring in former democratic congressman ron derrick jones and patrick is here and doug high. guys, let s start with the decision to ban any sort of doctors medical care for anyone under 18 who is looking who believes they are trans and is looking for any sort of medical treatment be it pharmaceutical, consultation or anything like that. doug, i believe you are comfortable with this new law in tennessee. yeah, i think one we have to treat people with dignity and respect and certainly what we ve learned over not just the past three or four years but 20 years, people that feel this way, are this way and have gone through this process quite often go through a very painful life and process. we don t want that. but there are differences between people who a
differentiate between equity and equ equality? well, quality we talk about i don t know what the answer to that is. come to think of it, you know, equality is equality of opportunity. all right? we live in a society we want all people right. to have whatever color your skin is. equity is more guarantee of outcome, is it now? i think so. i think so. okay. so which side do you come down on? equality. equality. yeah. okay. boys? any comment on that one? i don t know if that s the definition difference. the equality outcome over equality of opportunity is a question that analyzes affirmative action and everything else and a very strong even people that want equality of outcome say they only want equality of opportunity and vice versa. that s a that issue, that core of that, what do you actually want and i think bernie