the jail but he says overall, and my dad was a corrections officer, i grew up with stories about what it's like to be processed in a jail, visited the jail several times. when i was a kid. mr. trump's defiant here. but let's be honest. if it was john king or charles rambo or donald j trump, it must be humility humiliating or embarrassing, even if you believe you are innocent. >> that's true. we'll go with the presumption of innocence regardless of whether it's andriy trump, charles remember, to come to any booking office is a shock of the conscience of someone who was going through a criminal justice system. we just hope that when they do go to that particular systems are not exposed to unsanitary conditions, eighth amendment violations that otherwise, initial said, it would be cruel and unusual. so i think that process for anybody, but that's part of the criminal justice process. >> charles ramble, grateful for your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you.