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Trump is going to fight everything tooth and nail. it is routine because what they want to turn over are all of the witness statements, so in order to be disclosed into the world, you could imagine that people who have testified against donald trump could find themselves being harassed or threatened by members of the public. donald trump is going to push hard on everything. and even if he doesn't get his way, the eventual delay in his trial, seems to be his game, fight everything, delay everything, concede no ground. >> i lost you for a couple of moments in that answer there. the connection we...

Because of the 60-day rule about not doing things. that influence politics, close to an election. they also would need probable cause, to get a search warrant. that there is something there. not just having suspicions. that could be and other things are still looking toward. and asking questions about as they grilled trump's aides in the jury room. >> neil, i have one more quick question for you. is this the end of the line for trump? or do you think it's gonna end up at the supreme court? >> well, i think trump will try. he always tries, alex. to delay everything. and bring everything through...

Trump? or do you think it's gonna end up at the supreme court? >> wow, i think trump will try. he always tries, alex. to delay everything. and bring everything through. but the supreme court will make short -- very fast. and the justice department should expedite decisions with the supreme court. this is been a terrible week for donald trump, alex, his tax returns, unanimously lost that in the supreme court. so, they were turned over to congress. his former chief of staff, mark meadows, as ordered of testify in front of a grand jury. and now trump is watching his favorite judge in florida, phy...

Doesn't mean that's not actually what was happening. and so whether or not the call happened probably doesn't change the facts as we know it. but it certainly does kind of discount sondland even further as a reliable witness for either side in this investigation. multiple witnesses said eight days prior on september 1st, sondland told a top zelensky aid, unless zelensky launched those investigations they would not be getting that aid. i want to hit one more topic before i let you all go. we're still getting more rulings regarding whether the former white house lawyer don mcgahn will have to ...

Of hundred thousand votes. those were votes we could have gotten. we could have won those states. so yeah, elections do have consequences. we don't control the senate. so we can't sit here and demand we're going to have a repeal because there's no way we're ever going to get harry reid to go along with anything like that. >> so matt, do you feel like the republicans ought to have a showdown here and, you know, short of their own version of the o.k. corral? >> well, as the non-republican at the table, the problem is you can't defund obama care. you can't. you can make a fight over it, but you c...