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Until you look at nonjust the returns themselves, but the backup details. tax prosecutions require willful behavior by the taxpayer. one would expect that trump might try to use a defense if there is something wrong or fraudulent in his taxes, a reliance on his preparers. while that can be a defense, there can also be charges that can be brought based on the underlying knowledge that the taxpayer has, ultimate control what goes into the forms. at this point i would say with this big release, it's very murky. i think the irony here is that four years ago, this committee sought these tax returns...

Only very partial protection from having to answer questions under what's called the speech is and debate clause in the constitution. that says that a sitting member of congress like lindsey graham does not have to answer questions about his legislative activities. that's what the courts found. now what's legislative? well, the court said it's definitely not anything you did politically with the trump campaign, it's definitely not your public statements and it's definitely not any pressure that you put on state or local officials. i think that's where prosecutors are going to focus their quest...

Here we are at district court. case needs to be briefed, argued, decided. it will go to the court of appeals. whoever loses will try to get it to the supreme court. the chances of all of that in 52 days are slim to none. it's not a surprise donald trump is playing the delay game and they have made it easy for him to do it successfully. >> a special announcement will be announced at mar-a-lago. cnn previously reported trump and his team were eyeing the third week of november as a window for a potential 2024 presidential announcement. if trump announces his candidacy how would that impact ongoin...

A, because a justice decision from the beginning is kind of incoherent. asking a special master as respective as this individual is with the background in the fisa court to make a decision. >> why do think it's encounter? >> it's encounter because you're asking somebody to review cops equal documents and nobody should be looking at. but you're asking about the raw politics of this right? so putting it aside doesn't make any sense at all. you are increasing the chance it'll run into a conflict with the former president declaring a new run. that will add all sorts of new political pressures and ...

>> that has consequences politically. this is what the doj wanted. he wanted it to end by october unless a higher court steps in. this is going to move slowly, right? >> yeah. look, the question is whether the doj does try to get this all thrown out because the judge's decision from the beginning is incoherent. you are asking the special master, with a background of the pfizer court reviewing documents. >> why do you think it's incoherent? >> it's incoherent because you are asking someone to review classified documents that the president shouldn't have taken with him. but putting that aside, y...