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Campaign. doesn't mean didn't have involvement. >> he was campaign manager for a short period of time. as soon as the allegations came out, the day they came out. trump fired him. >> sound like sean spicer. >> because he's telling the truth. this guy as soon as donald trump found out what was going on about paul manafort allegedly, he fired him. i don't know what else you could ask him to do. >> did not happen that quickly. here is sean spicer, what he said about paul manafort. >> there's been discussion of paul manafort who played a limited role for limited amount of time. hired to oversee th...

Force their will on them and get more delegates. he's going to slog it out. i think i was joking with you this morning. i'm guessing gerald ford argued the delegate math was on his side at this point in time because he was winning like this over ronald reagan. >> but i was there. they also had a delegate hunting operation going on behind the scenes. >> ford did? >> for ford, right. and when we arrived a the the convention, mississippi was still open. and they were saying we've got to get mississippi over. >> at least reagan probably had a delegate operation. santorum doesn't have any of this s...