Would be governed by deliberative process. and frankly, the court of appeals here said that, essentially, if they had lied to the district judge about what you were doing, this might have been deliberative process. but they basically said, if you lie to a judge, you are going to be sanctioned. and the sanction he was making it public. >> andrew weissmann thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> you are welcome. >> coming up, we have breaking news at this hour, the uvalde school board has just terminated school district police chief pete arredondo over his failures at the mass shooting at...