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case. people who had their campaigns funded by david macintosh and club for growth are not listening to him. they're not listening to former president trump so do they really have the influence that they think they have? >> yeah, chaos feeds on chaos, happy birthday, congressman. we'll go up to the capitol to manu raju and, manu, tell us about the key meeting of these rebels, of these conservative holeouts happening right now. tell us more. >> reporter: this can be a pivotal meeting. several members we are looking closely to see how they will vote are holed up in emmer's office, a me...

I actually have two questions, and i wanted to piggyback on the last point. you have mentioned that there is a level of communication with demar writing. i am curious as to what you are able to see that he's understanding or processing what all has happened to him in the last couple of days? >> yeah, we have discussed, you know, with him what happened, and he is not quite to the point where we can have a conversation, because he has a breathing tube in, an able to communicate with yeses and nos by communicating with brief notes, and he has been surprised that he was not with the world for two ...