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Biden might jump in. does anyone think those are serious? >> i think obviously joe biden makes a race much more interesting. you'll have three major candidates at that point. i think joe biden getting in might encourage other people to get in as well. i do want to say about bernie sanders. john heilemann the parallels between another vermont underdog from 2003 are pretty striking. i remember the summer of 2003 and howard dean drawing massive crowds. i believe it was in bryant park or around bryant park. it's deja vu all over again. >> you remember howard dean he spoke for the democratic wing a...

Look at the map. wins convincingly over john mccain with 365 electoral votes. fast forward four years, 2012, the president gets 71% of the latino vote. wins again with 332 electoral votes over mitt romney. in both places nevada, new mexico, florida, virginia, colorado, places where latino vote matters going the president's way. republicans now without a doubt, look at the map have a major demographic problem and there's also little doubt at the moment donald trump is making it worse. >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. i'm not just saying mexicans. i'm talking a...

More conservative than i am. his view on marijuana legalize is he is open to the federal government getting out but if he were a legislator in wisconsin, he would vote against it he's personally against it. that is more palatable to a right-leaning voter in colorado who has what they want on the state level. >> that they want to join -- >> yeah so they don't want -- >> liberation ari. >> so that means multitudes in anonon, when -- in an onion, and when we see the layers, we want to cry. in the last chapter you talk about the republican's contemporary demographic problem. so i want to deal with...

All our squabbling in washington, that doesn't describe the united states. you have to compare it to where china is going. china has a number of problems. they are doing well. it faces a number of problems on the horizon. chinese say the dangers were getting old before getting rich. they have a demographic problem as they look ahead. putting all these things together i think you can make a strong case that the united states is going to be the most powerful country. i was interested the current issue in "the economist" magazine says my assessment is well argued and powerful. i hope they are rig...

His brother george w. spoke like this. this is where mitt romney got into problems with pressure from the right. can jeb bush sell that in south carolina? >> it's been difficult. he's obviously had a lot of support from hispanic voters in florida. that was part of his broad pe appeal. that's what a lot like about him about mainstream republicans. rick perry said it's heartless. for jeb bush, this is a tricky line to walk. i think it's interesting that he's doubling down a little bit on that because he has gotten into some trouble there. >> that's the question. is he big enough to sell it? you ...