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Been motivated and inspired, the type of funding or resources that they were provided in support of this horrendous event, nicolle. >> juan zarate, can you take us inside of what all the european capitals and what all of the intelligence services in europe are doing in concert with our intelligence services? you know, obviously, the paris attacks are something that you talked about dodging a bullet but obviously something that intelligence officials in spain watch closely. were there things that were done differently? i mean, you talked about canaries in the mine, dodging bullets. is it your f...

Fits all of the molds. >> juan zurate is an nbc security analyst who joins me now. london, nice, stockholm. this has been the preferred attack overseas. why is that? >> it's simple and we've seen now over the course of many months and many geographies the terrorists of whatever brand can use vehicles to hit multiple types of tourists and targets and to do so in a way that is not only terrifying but is hard to stop. and i think that's why you've scene al qaeda over the last couple of years, the islamic state calling on followers to use whatever simple means are available to attack in place and ...

A social media perspective and media coverage perspective and we've seen it and heard theresa may talk about this. terrorism begetting terrorism. it's the demonstration effect of all of these attacks. nice looks like berlin, christmas market looks like westminster bridge and london. these actors, be they individual small groups or even organized organizations like isis or al qaeda, learn from each other. they see how we react and constantly trying to both copycat and adapt. i think that's really dangerous here because they are seeing that these small scale attacks can have strategic impact. >>...

There was the one that was iran acting against the biggest saudi oil company and there was an attack we believe the north koreans did on south korea that bears a lost technical resemblance that the fbi pointed out. that is why the president felt he had to respond. >> coming up with a proportionate response is not easy. >> you do do a return cyberattack on the north koreans. we are the most wired vulnerable society on earth. everything is connected from our tv networks to our financial networks and our power grid whereas in north korea, almost nothing is connected. we are a target rich environm...

Writing that on her own, all that stuff would be gone. >> in terms of the substantive legacy of the cheney vice presidency, and especially with regard to war. as the president and congress grapple with whether or not the united states is going to do something else militarily in iraq now, is there substantive legacy of the way that cheney changed the approach to war as american policy? that the united states now has to decide whether to walk back or continue with? >> well, one of cheney's big strategic objectives was what -- the people in his office, internally called the demonstration effect. ...