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Worded statement. >> thank you. a columnist for the daily beast and the author of the nuclear showdown, north korea takes on the world. how crucial do you believe this second summit is? >> i actually don't think it is that crucial at all. i mean president trump actually talked about this last may, he said look, maybe we need one, two, three, maybe even more summits and that really diminishes the importance of any one of them. and i can see why kim jong-un wants the summit. he wants to be able to delay more. he wants legitimization. he wants to use it to drive a wedge between seoul and washin...

Nuclear threat from north korea was over and then there were reports of them expanding the missile bases and they probably have more missiles now than the beginning of the diplomatic process. they called north korea an extraordinary threat to the u.s. so there is still some very significant issues here. north korea has an arsenal. the u.s. wants them to get rid of it. and north koreans say the u.s. needs to get rid of sanctions in order for them to do anything. they still need to build a lot of confidence, a lot of trust. so there are some talks happening right now in sweden, in stockholm, low...

Short trip for kim jong-un and vietnam is a war that fought a war with the united states and rose from the ashes and a potential model for north korea if they decide to open up their economy which is something that kim jong-un has stated he wants to do. we have to wait for the initial announcement. it could be a surprise that nobody is considering but we're hearing likely vietnam at this point. >> will you cover that first u.s. north korea summit in singapore and you traveled back and forth many times and kim promised to take steps to denuclear larization in the korean peninsula. has he done t...

President trump. and so that helped him back home. i think in terms of solidifying his hold on the regime. and it certainly allowed him to reach out to south korea and to other countries as well. so they got a lot from that first summit. we didn't get very much at all if anything. so i don't see why we're going to have another of these photo opportunities unless there's some real agreement. >> so how will you game real progress? i mean if there is indeed another summit, i mean, what will you, how will you assess what has been learned from the first summit, what was, what may have been the u.s....

And try to cap this program and figure a way out of this. >> that's actually what i wanted to ask you about next. the trump administration is trying to figure out how to deal with north korea. sitting down and having a discussion about this and capping this, as you said. in your expertise having watched many leaders try this, what do you think is the best approach? >> well, i think the first thing that should happen is the united states should call for talks about talks. informal talks, itten doesn't have to be sitting down for formal negotiations to figure out where both sides are and what th...