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This is who they want to hear from. the whistleblower, hunter biden, kurt volker, the former special envoy to ukraine, david hail, a top state department official, tim morrison, nelly ore, the wife of bruce ore and alexandria cha li chalupa. >> we have heard from three of four or those witnesses, prospective witnesses in the deposition process. personally speaking for myself, i wouldn't have any problem with them. what we're not going to do as adam schiff said is allow them to sort of revisit these crazy already debunked conspiracy theories about the bidens and ukraine. or to try to out the wh...

Hard to walk back, and i think he needs to explain himself. >> i know democrats want to hear from him. that was what we had heard prior to the new testimony, but he's saying, no, i'm not going to. i have immunity. that was his argument. that's why he defied a subpoena yesterday when he was supposed to testify or his testimony had been requested, so i guess to the second part of that question, how far are democrats willing to go in order to get him before the committees? >> i don't know the answer to that. let me just say, i think we have plenty in front of us with which to have public hearings...

List, perhaps some. >> well, kurt volker, tim morrison, they were witnesses in the deposition process and hearing from them in public would not trouble me at all. >> okay. we learned yesterday from the two transcripts that were released that white house chief of staff mick mulvaney had a central role in dealings with ukraine. how important is it for your committee to be able to question him and how far are democrats willing to go in order to do that. >> i think mick mulvaney does need to be heard from and should be heard from. there's lots of precedent for that. during watergate, we heard from...

A concession to republicans? >> not at all. this is an important step forward in the context of laying out the process by which information that has been collected with great leadership from chairman schiff and members of the intel committee and others, to be able to transfer that information to the judiciary committee, to the extent there is a recommendation to potentially consider articles of impeachment. it will also allow for the information that has been collected through the deposition process to be released, considering the fact that there may need to be some redactions for national sec...

In the course of this resolution, and that is also very different in terms of the parity, as you say, in terms of the way they will go through this process. >> martha: so i just want to if they basically have to bag to make it perfectly clear. get what they want. the ranking members don't just the president wants to adam schiff 'asperity of the get automatically, that got to go through a process to get sort phone call, that was also a of equal time in this process. parody, that did not actually happen at the nationals game. let's switch over to the but it struck me, 24 hours after political si...