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You and i would with take if we had to sit for a deposition, you commit perjury. and because it's open season in terms of the discovery and the deposition questioning, when donald trump was asking questions to the robert mueller team, thaw were written questions. there wasn't anything that hadn't been reviewed kaurfully. this is different. he's in a deposition setting. you're not going to be able to reign him un. who's going to be able to say what he wants to say. >> suppose he says i'm not going to listen to a lawyer. i'm president of the united states. i'm not going to go to a perjury trap. ...

For something that he's not sorry is the cover that unravels him. do you think we'll see him revert back to believing vladamir putin? >> i don't think he's moved off of that point to be honest. this is exactly why the president can never submit to an interview with bob mueller. if this were in a deposition setting with mueller and his team and a court stenographer, this is perjury. so compaessentially we have per here. this is the problem his lawyers are wrestling with. with regard to the presser with putin, he threw out the presser. he continually refused to embrace the findings of the u.s. i...

Had to pick up my jaw off the floor, i couldn't believe he was in an unfettered fashion -- i take it back, i do believe it, that's how trump rolls. i couldn't believe he kept on going. they had to shut him off, the anchors at "fox and friends," had to shut him off. april 5th, air force one, he denied any knowledge about $130 payment to stormy daniels. "ask my lawyer, michael cohen." thursday he says, not only did michael cohen represent him in that crazy stormy daniels deal, he knew about the payout. and more specifically, he says during a call-in to "fox and friends," hey, it wasn't campaign ...

Cross-examined, and you have comments in the past be brought back up. that's going to be problematic for him if mike will avenatti gets -- michael avenatti gets a crack at him in a deposition setting. >> could he be hurting his client's case by being in the spotlight so often? >> as a germ rule, you always run that risk. avenatti has demonstrated that he is a media-savvy attorney and he's careful to stick to the facts and not divulge too much or overcommit his client and somehow compromise her legal position. it is true. attorneys can legally bind their clients with their statements which is w...

Agents in cincinnati. so here's hally paz, chief deputy to lois lerner continuing this it's not a big deal. it was just people in cincinnati. it was just a generic term we used kind of furthering the same narrative the white house trumpeted out there for several weeks that we now know to be completely false. that's why we say, hey, these are real inconsistencies and we want to give you a chance to correct the record or frankly you'll be back in front of the committee in a full committee not just a deposition setting but the full committee answering our questions. >> do you have the sense now o...