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Um, it came out feeling somewhat unbalanced, john. >> any sign that macron, if his goal was to get putin to deescalate, that he immediate any headway at all? >> you know, no. it was hard to sort of come away wa that kind of read. they used the hang here rather than reducing tensions, the language that -- that macron and putin are using is sort of bing -- bring a broad security guarantee or new security dispensation to europe. this is something that gives russia what it wants, and europe gets what it wants. um, but on that key point of russia deescalating, which is something putin said he rathe...

Um, but on that key point of russia deescalating, which is something putin said he -- rather, macron said he was going to come to moscow to do. that didn't seem to land. look, the talks they had were in private. lasted over five hours. he may have said it behind closed doors. but out in front of the cameras, he did not want to appear to be derailing everything. he wanted to appear as if there was reason to be optimism, reason to keep the process going, rather than -- rather than, um, you know, put putin in a corner which he didn't do, john. >> significant. nic robertson, thank you very much fo...

Spending down. let's say we know there's a storm coming -- what you do when there is a storm coming connect to put out your nice furniture and all of that china and the vases that your grandmother can be left you in her will? know! you batten down the hatches. you take everything in sight. what does that mean? you cut spending to decrease the risk. that we would feel in a downturn. >> richard: i hear that argument, but here's what -- >> kennedy: that's not even an argument, those are my feelings! >> richard: i hear your feelings! [laughs] >> gillian: but do you have nice try to? can you tell u...

What's important and on derailing everything that the trump administration is interested in doing. and in the end, that's what this is all about. it's about losing the election. hillary didn't win and we're still dealing with the ramifications of that. that really is it. >> harris: you know, joe, i have not seen you take issue with any of that. your focus when i have watched you is, can the democrats get a message? >> look, the democrats need to get a message. that's true. but i also think, look, there's no way this isn't going away. martha mac callum said the trump administration cannot just ...